And this:

Ozone depletion -- during the Antarctic WINTER. -- by ozone-depleting chemicals

Fact #1:


Really? We're to worry about a catastrophic global warming (too much BAD CO2 gives us a greenhouse gas blanket and we get HOT) and also to worry about the last catastrophic warming (Not enough GOOD O3 to make an ozone gas blanket or we also get HOT)

You can chose any facts you want, but you only get to chose one.

Not sure this guy is right anyway. The ultraviolet rays are probably absorbed at the higher altitudes by the Ozone, where their heat of absorption could then be radiated back out into space, not reflected. The point is that it never reach the Earth's surface where the local surface temperature could raise the air at sea level to be much hotter for us.

Real Truth; both are frauds, but we are only talking about the CFC fraud at the moment

Fact #2:


You want me to believe that gases disperse ONLY to the upper atmosphere of the Antarctic and only in winter?

Given equal weights, gases should mix it up pretty well with the winds blowing across the Earth.

Why is there NEVER an ozone hole over New York City during summer?

Or, over China where this mysterious gas supposedly comes from?

It always seems to pool in Antactica, a place with no need for a refrigerator or ozone.

So I call out a lie. Given no other explanation, ozone depletion should be everywhere at all times.

Fact #3:


OK, Antactica in winter. So these scientists are telling you that it takes conditions in the neighborhood of -40 to -60 degrees below zero for a chemical reaction to take place between O3 and flurocarbons?

That flies against everything I was taught in my high school chemistry class.

The greatest chemical reaction rates occurring between the two should be taking place over the Sahara desert  at noon  in the middle of the summer. That is where the hole in the ozone layer should exist according to chemical reaction rates.

Fact #4:


"Aha, I got you", you say. "Over the Sahara, during summer, the Sun is overwhelming the creation of O3, but over the Antarctic during winter, there is not enough O3 being created."

But over the Antarctic in winter, there is no sunlight; hence no need for O3 to reflect ultraviolet rays; hence, no need to alarm.

Over the Sahara, there is plenty of O3 being produced, so that O3 is reflecting the  ultraviolet rays, as we want, right?

Fact #5:


How can CFC-11 be both places?

Heavy gases sink, while light gases rise.  Unless you do not believe in helium balloons.

How heavy is the CFC-11 complained of in this article?
 

Molecule	Molecular Weight (grams/mole)
Helium	4.003
Water	18.02
N2 (Nitrogen)	28.0134
Air	28.97
O2 (Oxygen)	31.998
CO2 (Carbon Dioxide)	44.01
CCl3F (CFC-11)	137.36

While Helium is 7.24 times lighter than the Air (80% Nitrogen and 20% Oxygen) and causes a balloon to rise, CFC-11 is 4.74 times heavier as air.

While Helium could rise to the upper atmosphere, there is no way in hell you could even get a CFC-11 balloon off the ground.

Sorry, but CFC-11 would sink like a rock in water.

There are no CFC-11 molecules in the upper atmosphere where the ozone layer exists.

Fact #6:


The entire appeal of CFCs is that unlike other gases, they boil at about the temp we are looking to maintain our home's temperature (75 Degrees F). The boiling point of water is a massive 212 Degree F, but the boiling point of Nitrogen is a frigid -320 F.

The reverse of a boiling point of 74.79 Degrees F means that CFC-11 is not a gas below 74.79 Degrees F.

Water seems to defy logic. Its boiling point is a hefty 212 deg F. How does it ever boil and once boiled , how does it stay a gas?  I think the explanation is by looking at its molecular weight. For H2O, the two light hydrogen atoms attached to the heavier Oxygen atom lifts it higher. A hydrogen balloon raising an oxygen atom as you will. A solar ray hitting a single water molecule raises that molecule's energy above 212 Deg F and its light weight rapidly raises it above the surface of the water so that it does not recondense. Water needs a condensate to return to a liquid state.

The point with water is that it is lighter than air, rises higher and higher until it reaches a cold enough altitude to recondense to water droplets  which we call clouds.  Clouds form  at 10,000 to  25,000 ft  in polar regions and in the tropics, clouds range from 20,000 to 60,000 ft.

First notice that clouds max out lower at 25,000 ft  in colder arctic  condition, and second, notice that  even in the hottest environment over the equator, clouds only go to 60,000 ft.

Right away you should see a problem with Freon reaching 80,000 ft over the cold arctic when it both weighs a lot more and it condenses at a much lower temperature.

Once again we must resort to logic when discussing our CFC-11. While boiling points do lower in the lower atmospheric pressures of the 15.5 miles altitude at which the ozone maximizes (6-31 miles), the temperature also drops to -62 Degrees.

Along its way to reach 15 miles above a leaking refrigerator, the CFC-11 has to stay gaseous at 0 feet above sea level where it is 59 Degree F but not possible to be a gas; 5000 feet and 41 Degree F, not hot enough to boil it; 23.36 Degree F at 10000 feet, still not enough to boil; and so on until a height of 82,000 feet is arrived at.

I am not buying the argument that gaseous Freon (CFC-11) could exist at both a high altitude and a cold temperature.

Fact #7:


Can you spot the problem here?

O3 is a WEAK triple bond of oxygen atoms?  Then why cannot another frequency of the Sun's abundant solar radiation break that weak bond?

The author already admits that cosmic rays break apart the strong bonds of atmospheric oxygen.

Truth is that these so-called cosmic rays are doing both. One frequency breaks the hard bonds of O2, where the broken oxygen atom temporarily attaches to a free O2 molecule. And a short time later, another cosmic ray breaks the O3 molecule apart  where two Oxygen atoms find each other and recombine into normal O2.

To say otherwise is ridiculous and uneducated.

Over the hundreds of millions of year of Earth's existence, with the Sun every day creating more and more O3, then far before even a million years has past, the entire volume of oxygen in our atmosphere would be converted to O3 and not what we really have, the 20% of our atmosphere being O2.

The reality is we have a state of equilibrium exist where Ozone is created by the sun and blocks the harmful ultraviolet rays. This builds up into a Ozone layer. But the Sun also comes along and blasts through the Ozone, braking it up where normal Oxygen is recreated.

This natural process of creation and destruction happens totally without any CFCs present as they have no mechanism to get them to that altitude at that frigid of a condition.

Salon Reports: Somewhere on Earth, ozone-destroying supervillain is hard at work Nicole Karlis May 18, 2018 11:22pm (UTC) Could it be that somewhere in this world, some diabolical supervillain is manufacturing a banned chemical and then releasing it into the atmosphere, part of a plot to eat away at Earth's ozone layer? That is what some scientists and researchers are speculating — although without the comic book twist. Indeed, an unofficial investigation has been triggered to solve this international mystery that resembles the work of a "Captain Planet" antagonist. Scientists raised concerns on Wednesday when a report, published in the journal Nature, showed that emissions of  CFC-11, a banned chemical that has been proven to be harmful to the Earth’s ozone layer, have increased 25 percent above average from 2002 to 2012. CFC is shorthand for chlorofluorocarbon; the chemical CFC-11 forms part of a group of pollutants that were banned under the 1987 Montreal Protocol, an international treaty created to protect the ozone layer. “We’re raising a flag to the global community to say, ‘This is what’s going on, and it is taking us away from timely recovery of the ozone layer,’” NOAA scientist Stephen Montzka, the study’s lead author, said in an announcement. “Further work is needed to figure out exactly why emissions of CFC-11 are increasing, and if something can be done about it soon. Scientists suspect that the unreported production might be coming from an unidentified source in East Asia. "In the end, we concluded that it’s most likely that someone may be producing the CFC-11 that’s escaping to the atmosphere," he added. "We don't know why they might be doing that and if it is being made for some specific purpose, or inadvertently as a side product of some other chemical process." According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, CFC-11 is “is the second-most abundant ozone-depleting gas in the atmosphere.” The chemical can still be found in older refrigerators — built before the mid-1990s — as it was used in foam insulation and appliances. “I’ve been making these measurements for more than 30 years, and this is the most surprising thing I’ve seen,” Montzka told the Washington Post. “I was astounded by it, really.” Montzka said if the source can be identified, and controlled, damage will be minimal. If not, it could lead to delays in the recovery of ozone layer. The ozone layer is the shield that absorbs most of the sun’s ultraviolet radiation, and can be found in the lower part of Earth’s stratosphere. The ozone layer was discovered in the early 20th century. In 1987, the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer was enacted, a global treaty and commitment to phasing out chemicals like chlorofluorocarbons that appeared to be depleting the ozone layer. Ozone — chemically, O3 — is a weak triple bond of oxygen atoms that can be easily torn apart by certain man-made chemicals. In the upper atmosphere, it forms naturally as a result of cosmic rays severing the bonds of atmosphere oxygen, O2, whereas at lower elevations it is an oft-harmful pollutant. The ozone layer  serves an important role in deflecting ultraviolet rays and keeps the Earth cooler than it would be otherwise. Ozone-depleting chemicals like chlorofluorocarbons are often measured according to their potential to split ozone molecules. In terms of that scale, known as "ozone depletion potential," only one compound has a higher rating than CFC-11. It was not too long ago that the situation with Earth’s ozone layer appeared to be dire. However, in January 2018, measurements showed that efforts to reduce ozone-depleting chemicals were having a positive effect in the ozone layer’s recovery. Indeed, NASA’s Aura satellite measured about 20 percent less ozone depletion during the Antarctic winter than there was in 2005. “We see very clearly that chlorine from CFCs is going down in the ozone hole, and that less ozone depletion is occurring because of it,” lead author Susan Strahan, an atmospheric scientist from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, said. Scientists said the good news contributed to a better outlook for full recovery by mid-century. “CFCs have lifetimes from 50 to 100 years, so they linger in the atmosphere for a very long time,” Anne Douglass, the study’s co-author, said. “As far as the ozone hole being gone, we’re looking at 2060 or 2080. And even then there might still be a small hole.” But the latest news from this week could possibly slow that down that target. Overall, CFC-11 emissions in the atmosphere are still declining, but they are declining at a slower rate than they would be if there were no mysterious source producing the chemical.